Wednesday, November 24, 2004

Muslim teacher wants Geert Wilders dead

Abdul-Jabbar van de Ven wants Geert Wilders dead. Geert Wilders is the Dutch MP who (together with Ayaan Hirsi-Ali, another MP) is fighting the rise of Islam in the Netherlands.
Van de Ven is a Muslim teacher, it's not clear from the report where or what he teaches.
Van de Ven stated in a prime time talkshow that he would like to see Wilders die within two years. He added he hoped Wilders wouldn't be murdered by a Muslim.

Abdul-Jabbar van de Ven said he does not approve of murder, but he did feel 'something akin to gladness' when he heard of the murder of Theo van Gogh.
Van de Ven is a very Dutch name, leading to the inevitable conclusion that this is either a convert or a Muslim born to Dutch parents.

What is most striking in this report is not that this Muslim comes out and honestly says what he feels. It is not even the fact that he wants someone dead who has done him no harm in any sane, rational sense of the word.

No, the real impact is in the fact that this reasonably-sounding maniac with a degree KNOWS that in this society, he can come out and say things like these.
Were he a Jew in Egypt (well, that's impossible, let's take a Copt for argument's sake), and said the same thing, he would be dead himself soon. Probably before he left the studio.

In this case, the Egyptians' way would be better.

Update: Dutch daily Het Parool (Dutch) has more on this issue.
"Van Gogh did nothing but offend Muslims to the depth of their souls", he said earlier. "As far as I'm concerned he could have been hit by a train or died of cancer. He is dead, that is all that counts".

Abdul-Jabbar van de Ven was born as Jilles van de Ven
[Told you so - Ed] to Dutch parents. He preaches near Den Bosch and is called the 'Internet-imam'. He is seen as the inspirator of Mohammed Bouyeri, Theo van Gogh's assassin. and of Jason W.. who was arrested in The Hague for conspriring to murder Geert Wilders and Ayaan hirsi-Ali.

Van de Ven, who studies in Saudi-Arabia for a year, said earlier in
[Dutch daily] Trouw that he would like to move to an Arabic country. "After September 11 I have the feeling: I don't belong here. I loathe the hypocrisy." Islamic countries don't exist according to van de Ven, only Afghanistan under the Taliban. "But you have a choice between cancer and the flu. Holland is cancer".
Holland is cancer. And life was good in Afghanistan, WHEN the Taliban ruled.

This has in itself nothing to do with religion. This guy is food for clinical psychiatrists. But then, I guess anyone who is this 'committed' to a 'religion' is. It's just so striking about Islam that it is so attractive to a disproportionately large number of candidate-mental patients.


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